Review: Cobra Nogaro seats (uniquely street friendly fixed back bucket seat)

[heinzboehmer]

Just switched my driver side seat over to manual rails today. Seems nice, just a little “sticky” and not quite as easy to get it to slide as typical OEM seats. Is this typical? If not any suggestions for getting it smooth?

No good solution . The BK mounts seem to push the rails out of position a bit, so they're no longer parallel and become sticky. See my post above: https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/m...620#post218620

[repoman89]

Just switched my driver side seat over to manual rails today. Seems nice, just a little “sticky” and not quite as easy to get it to slide as typical OEM seats. Is this typical? If not any suggestions for getting it smooth?

Waiting on the passenger side release handle to do the other side since ECS decided to send me a used/repackaged one without the springs. Replacement on the way.

The non-motorized slider piece is noticeably lighter … has to be a couple pounds per side

[OldRanger]

The project to setup and install Cobra Nogaros with BK mounts on OE power sliders urned out fairly well. There were some surprises during install, especially learning the seat is not precisely centered on the steering wheel. I've already grown accostomed to it. I think I will start up a new thread with only information on the install. This one was so long to review I lost track of the details.

[Avedis]

Has anyone used (or has opinion) on these mounts for the Nogaro? Pros, cons?

https://machtschnell.com/macht-schnell-clubsport-seat-mount.html

[SQ13]

Yeah I remember the side mount holes on my Sparco Circuit were higher than the old Oreca Start FG (Sparco Evo), so the Circuit sat lower to the floor and very close to the sub strap bar. This was with the fixed BK mounts.

[Obioban]

Right but being limited to the most upper holes only results in a non-ideal searing position. So I guess you’re saying there’s no workaround to that.

Yep.

[Nardo S54]

Different seats have holes in different locations— if they’re unusually high on the seat sides, only the top holes, if any, will line up.

Right but being limited to the most upper holes only results in a non-ideal searing position. So I guess you’re saying there’s no workaround to that.

[Obioban]

Obioban - I realize this thread is about the Cobras but I had a question re the BK hardware and I’m hoping you may be able to clarify something.

I am close to pulling the trigger on a set of Sparcos QRT Performance seats, and I happen to find someone who installed the same seats on his car. The only difference being he went with power sliders whereas I plan to go with manual. But he noted one small issue where he was unable to use any notch other than the highest setting on his side mounts for the rear of his seat. If he tried to go even one notch lower, the seat bottoms would bottom out and come in contact with the OEM rails. And so the net result is a seating position that’s too level; ideally the rear would be positioned lower relative to the front.

Do you know what the workaround for this is? I have a note out to BK but figured I’d try my luck here as well.

FYI here’s another thread (different from above) but I think they encountered a similar issue despite using non-BK hardware, and thus had to switch to Sparco specific side mounts.

Different seats have holes in different locations— if they’re unusually high on the seat sides, only the top holes, if any, will line up.

[Nardo S54]

Obioban - I realize this thread is about the Cobras but I had a question re the BK hardware and I’m hoping you may be able to clarify something.

I am close to pulling the trigger on a set of Sparcos QRT Performance seats, and I happen to find someone who installed the same seats on his car. The only difference being he went with power sliders whereas I plan to go with manual. But he noted one small issue where he was unable to use any notch other than the highest setting on his side mounts for the rear of his seat. If he tried to go even one notch lower, the seat bottoms would bottom out and come in contact with the OEM rails. And so the net result is a seating position that’s too level; ideally the rear would be positioned lower relative to the front.

Do you know what the workaround for this is? I have a note out to BK but figured I’d try my luck here as well.

FYI here’s another thread (different from above) but I think they encountered a similar issue despite using non-BK hardware, and thus had to switch to Sparco specific side mounts.

[RazorM]

I need to get a set of the speed engineering mounts to replace my BK ones. They look much higher quality.

i agree they are very well built, they are made of thick 4-5mm steel so not particularly light, but I guess it’s for the safety… the whole assembly with seat and sedan rail weights 14,7kg/32,5lbs. They sell them on burkhart so I guess they could ship anywhere

[Thoglan]

I need to get a set of the speed engineering mounts to replace my BK ones. They look much higher quality.

[RazorM]

Hello friends,

I’m seeking your help, or at least personal input, on this subject. Not necessarily with Cobra seats, but with the rails.

I've purchased a set of PP ABE and I want to mount them low (at 189cm or 6’2) I touch the roofliner with my helmet and the driving position is SUV like.

However, I still want to retain backseat accessibility, since this isn’t a track car and I have a son, and the ocasional friend.

I’m leaning towards Speed Engineering’s solution with OEM sliders.

My ultimate questions are:

- I saw the OP saying that electric sliders will give you a lower driving position. Is this true? I also saw he has since change to manual OEM sliders.

- Is it true that OEM sedan and touring sliders allow for more travel? I will need the most amount of travel possible, at least for the passenger seat.

- Is it true that sedan and touring sliders will attach the seatbelt receptacle in such a way that it’ll move with the seat while it slides? This isn’t true for other sliders and will need an adapter. Correct?

Thank you 🙏🏼

Hello,

i have the same exact setup, PP ABE with speed engineering side mounts and OEM manual rails.
Yes it is true that sedan(not sure about touring) sliders have longer travel than coupe sliders, so for rear seat accessibility sedan sliders are your choice.

As for the seating height. I am 178cm and with middle seat height setting, I sit way lower than OEM seat with one spare height setting I can go further down(another 2cm). Even I have sunroof car, there is still exactly 10cm above my head(I measured that).
There is like 5cm of space under the bottom of the seat and floor.
see picture of setup below

hope this helps a little bit

[heinzboehmer]

Make all the nuts/bolts loose (other than seat to seat mount).

Sit in the seat and slide it back and forth, say, 10 times.

Tighten all the nuts/bolts (without removing seat from the car).

In my experience, that gets everything lined up nicely.

Just did this and fortunately it did make a difference. This was my process:

• Loosen bracket to rail and rail to chassis bolts/nuts
• Sit in seat and slide back and forth ten times
• Torque rail to chassis bolts/nuts to spec
• Hand tighten bracket to rail nuts (just barely tight)
• Slide seat 10x again
• Torque bracket to rail nuts to spec

Sliding action isn't perfect, but it's better than before. On my E82 with stock manual seats, you can just barely touch the seat and it'll move. On the E46 you need to grip the base of the seat pretty hard to get it to move, applying force to the seat back binds the rails and it doesn't move at all. Decently easy to move when you're sitting in the seat, but still a bit "sticky".

I did gain some travel somehow on the driver's side, which is great. Now I can hit the stop on the rails, whereas before, the seat would interfere with the transmission tunnel. Makes getting into the rear much easier. Maybe I just moved it back and forth so much that I caved the transmission tunnel in slightly.

Regardless, I'm happier with the movement of the seats now. Have not tried taking a seat out to see how hard it is to realign the rails though.

[Drifting Squirrel]

Hello friends,

I’m seeking your help, or at least personal input, on this subject. Not necessarily with Cobra seats, but with the rails.

I've purchased a set of PP ABE and I want to mount them low (at 189cm or 6’2) I touch the roofliner with my helmet and the driving position is SUV like.

However, I still want to retain backseat accessibility, since this isn’t a track car and I have a son, and the ocasional friend.

I’m leaning towards Speed Engineering’s solution with OEM sliders.

My ultimate questions are:

- I saw the OP saying that electric sliders will give you a lower driving position. Is this true? I also saw he has since change to manual OEM sliders.

- Is it true that OEM sedan and touring sliders allow for more travel? I will need the most amount of travel possible, at least for the passenger seat.

- Is it true that sedan and touring sliders will attach the seatbelt receptacle in such a way that it’ll move with the seat while it slides? This isn’t true for other sliders and will need an adapter. Correct?

Thank you 🙏🏼

[Cubieman]

Ha, awesome. Pretty sure I bought the same exact thing as you: https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/m...244#post204244 Has worked well for me.

I've got my nuts stashed under the seat as well. Don't really find the need to mess with it too much while driving. If I feel like I need more/less support, I can always pull over and mess with it.

On my, you really did an awesome job there, I just threw my bag behind the seat back padding as it came out of the box. I gotta sit down and read your journal, very neat stuff going on.