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    Originally posted by George Hill View Post

    IIRC you have some experience with seats more so than the average user. Can you explain or elaborate on why a "knock-off" seat is bad or what its failure mode would be? I mean we expect that a cheap seat is going to have a lesser quality cover and foam, but what in its construction is worse or what is the failure mode? I would think one of the biggest concerns would be how the threaded inserts are connected/embedded into the seat shell itself. But aside from that what are the construction issues with a knock off?

    ***I am a big fan of Racetech and Cobra for seat fitment and comfort (and that is what I have in my car), but I always see these cheap seats and other than being a "knock-off" I don't really know what is specifically bad about them.
    Think of what a quality/OE seat has to endure in an accident to keep occupant in place. Heavy steel brackets, etc. Then imagine what could happen when a cheap fiberglass seat shears itself off its mounting points.

    A cheaper seat is cheaper because it didn't have to undergo rigorous testing to be certified. You're literally just sitting in a body kit bumper from who knows where

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      Originally posted by jvit27 View Post
      A cheaper seat is cheaper because it didn't have to undergo rigorous testing to be certified.
      Does that means its worse though? I buy a bunch of aftermarket parts nowadays and price does not always equal quality.

      I'm not saying your wrong, I'm just looking for data.
      • Option one is a seat for $1,000
      • Option two is the same seat but now it has a sticker (FIA, DOT, Whatever) for $2,000
      Its the same seat, one just has a sticker and the other doesn't. Does that mean the second option is better because it was $2,000?

      I was just talking with HMS about Schroth Quick Fit Pros and aftermarket seats. They are only certified to be used with a Recaro (I can't recall the model) and Cobra Nogaro's. The concern in regards to the shoulder harness is that in an impact the shoulder harnesses could cut downwards through the seat back. Now does that mean it will do that if you use them in any other Cobra, Racetech, OMP, Sparco, etc? IDK it just means we don't have the data. But saying those seats are inferior to Nogaro's or that specific Recaro is also a stretch IMO.

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        Originally posted by George Hill View Post

        Does that means its worse though? I buy a bunch of aftermarket parts nowadays and price does not always equal quality.

        I'm not saying your wrong, I'm just looking for data.
        • Option one is a seat for $1,000
        • Option two is the same seat but now it has a sticker (FIA, DOT, Whatever) for $2,000
        Its the same seat, one just has a sticker and the other doesn't. Does that mean the second option is better because it was $2,000?

        I was just talking with HMS about Schroth Quick Fit Pros and aftermarket seats. They are only certified to be used with a Recaro (I can't recall the model) and Cobra Nogaro's. The concern in regards to the shoulder harness is that in an impact the shoulder harnesses could cut downwards through the seat back. Now does that mean it will do that if you use them in any other Cobra, Racetech, OMP, Sparco, etc? IDK it just means we don't have the data. But saying those seats are inferior to Nogaro's or that specific Recaro is also a stretch IMO.
        The point is that you don't know.

        As in, certainly it's possible they're fine. But, without doing destructive testing (and that's assuming they produce the seats consistently), you won't know if they're fine or not until you crash-- at which point they could make you dead.

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