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  • heinzboehmer
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    Also, some (long) thoughts and a photo dump at the end:

    It's been interesting driving the car with the braces and snorkel back on. It's both more and less refined.

    The thing that I kept being drawn to this time around is the H in NVH. The car isn't harsher as a whole, but the qualities of the harshness for sure change.

    If you imagine plotting the impacts that the driver feels inside the car, the amplitudes would stay the same, regardless of bracing, BUT the shape of the waveform would be very different. Unbraced would be sinusoidal, while braced would be much more triangle-like. In other words, the unbraced chassis extends the duration of the harshness, but softens the transitions, while the braced chassis both absorbs and gets the harshness out of the way much quicker. In qualitative terms, the bracing makes the car feel more "sporty" and less "relaxed". Think this is similar to what Bryson was talking about when comparing it to a spring rate change.

    The one exception to this is the steering wheel. The feedback you get through there is for sure harsher, period. Makes sense since, for a given impact: less strut tower deflection -> less energy absorbed by flexing the strut towers -> more energy going into the steering rack -> harsher "jolts" of the wheel in your hands. This is not at all an unwelcome change, though! Makes the front end feel way more precise and again, "sporty".

    On throttle, mid corner behavior is still the best part of this mod for me. You give it steering input and the front keeps turning at the same radius, regardless of the amount of throttle applied. It's very fun.

    Counterpoint to that is that the front end is significantly less forgiving of imprecise inputs. I didn't even realize I had learned this behavior, but turns out I was using the unbraced, throttle induced understeer to aid in small direction changes. Simplest example that comes to mind is giving it only a little bit of steering angle on the highway to change lanes, then giving it throttle to speed up and letting the understeering front end carry you over to the other lane. If I go to do that with the braced chassis, the car just keeps pointing where I told it to point with my hands. Again, not something I mind because of the more sporty nature of the car, but still something worth pointing out.

    The braced chassis demands more attention from the driver in most situations, and especially if you want to be smooth. As mentioned above, it's less forgiving to imprecision.


    Onto the snorkel:

    This change was immediately obvious: less snorkel, more rowdiness. It's not louder, but the overtones in the noise are slightly higher pitched, which makes it feel louder.

    And this isn't just subjective! I have data to prove it.

    First, a comparison of the waveforms of a pull from 3k to 8k rpm (same on ramp, similar weather, mic in the same spot, both WOT). Note that the amplitude is basically the same between both.

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    And here's a spectrogram comparison of the same clips.

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    The difference is very obvious in the spectrograms. Notice how much more higher the frequencies are pushed without the snorkel. With the snorkel, they're all bunched up in the low end.

    Cool to see, but I think I'll be keeping the snorkel for the sake of those IATs

    (also worth noting that this is with the cerakoted snorkel. I'm not sure how much the coating affects the sound, but it sounds pretty similar to what I remember the uncoated snorkel sounding like. I wish I had captured audio of that combo as well, just to know for sure)



    Anyway, too much talking. Ending this one with some much better engine bay pictures, in a couple different lighting scenarios.:

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  • heinzboehmer
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    Originally posted by YoitsTmac View Post
    Looks great! Whose intake snorkel is that? I'm looking for a plastic OEM-style one
    Karbonius snorkel that I had cerakoted. I think Haimus makes one that fits and is plastic?

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  • YoitsTmac
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    Looks great! Whose intake snorkel is that? I'm looking for a plastic OEM-style one

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  • heinzboehmer
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    Thanks! I'm pretty happy with how the project came out

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  • D-O
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    Very well done sir.

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  • bavarian3
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    Looks amazing.

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  • Obioban
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    So very nicely stock looking. Love it.

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  • bigjae46
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    Looks outstanding!!!

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  • heinzboehmer
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    Didn't have a ton of time today, but installed the parts and took some rushed engine bay pics. They're kinda all blown out, but salvaged what I could in SW:

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    Took some closeups of the snorkel as well. Very happy with how that part looks now:

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    (next time I'll wipe the engine bay down before pulling out the camera )

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  • heinzboehmer
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    Originally posted by karter16 View Post
    Looks awesome - especially the snorkel that's really, really nice!!
    Yeah, that one came out cooler than I expected!

    I like that the texture of the carbon peeks out through the cerakote. Very subtle.

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  • karter16
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    Looks awesome - especially the snorkel that's really, really nice!!

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  • heinzboehmer
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    Heeell yeah. These came out incredible:

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    The cerakote is practically a perfect match to the OE finish on the E86 braces. The stock E46 strut bar and brackets are slightly more glossy, but I opted to have them finished in the same color, just for consistency. Really happy with how they look.

    You can see I also had my Karbonius snorkel refinished. I had no idea you could cerakote CF, but it came out great. Hard to tell in the pic, but the finish on that part is more matte than the braces, in an effort to make it look as close to the ABS plastic of the OE flap as possible.

    I'll get these things on the car soon. Weather has been nice, so maybe I'll grab the camera and get some engine bay beauty shots as well.

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  • heinzboehmer
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    Originally posted by George Hill View Post
    I forgot about this aspect, I wonder how they are dealing with it? With a rigid panel I don't know if it structurally needs it and being in the back window its likely not seen but this is definitely the item that now sticks out to me.
    It doesn't curl up past 180 deg, so I think you would be able to wrap the carbon around the lip and just manage to demold the part. Tricky bit for sure though.

    Originally posted by Bry5on View Post
    Personally I’d trust a mold from an actual part over a scan and re-CAD first attempt. Glad they’re doing it, even if it doesn’t help my wagon situation. I’m still looking for a slicktop touring headliner :/
    Oh 100%, I do too. But I do think that having the model will make prototyping go much faster, since you don't have to track down another impossible to find part and take another mold.

    I spent some time thinking about how to validate the model efficiently yesterday and I think that using SW to flatten the surface and then printing it out on one of those big paper plotters could work. Then offer up to the real part and see if there are any inconsistencies.

    The surface flattening algorithm and assembly do introduce extra variables, but sounds better (and much faster) than trying to print/CNC a few full scale prototypes. Would still for sure need at least one full scale pink insulation CNC part to test fitment before trying to pull a mold though.

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  • Bry5on
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    Personally I’d trust a mold from an actual part over a scan and re-CAD first attempt. Glad they’re doing it, even if it doesn’t help my wagon situation. I’m still looking for a slicktop touring headliner :/

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  • George Hill
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    Originally posted by heinzboehmer View Post

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    Lol I guess I don't need to like this post since I like the IG post haha


    Originally posted by bavarian3 View Post
    ...and the panel in the back where the headliner curls over.
    I forgot about this aspect, I wonder how they are dealing with it? With a rigid panel I don't know if it structurally needs it and being in the back window its likely not seen but this is definitely the item that now sticks out to me.

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