336whp / 255lb-ft on my ~80K mile engine.
Mods:
- CSL Airbox (Haimus)
- 280/272 Cat Cams
- Euro/CSL Style Headers
- Dinan High Flow TBs
- Eisenmann Muffler
- TMS Pullies
- Mishimoto Electric Fan
- RK Tunes / Alpha-N
- 93 Octane (various)
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HTE tune,
Streamline/Haimus carbon airbox
Bosch 550cc injectors
Catcam 280/272 cams
Custom Performance Stepped headers, OEM euro cats & section 2, Eisenmann Sport section 3
4.1 diff
Aprox 312 at the wheels, roughly 370-ish at the crank.
Hassan did a phenomenal job live tuning it on the dyno, lambda is very good and car runs very nicely. Allegedly the mustang dynos in Europe are very strict when it comes to reported power.
RegardsLast edited by Mr.wReckless; 06-30-2024, 12:15 PM.
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Oh yeah, the diff. That's more important than any of the other stuff I listed. Gears + an upgraded LSD really make the car come alive in terms of driving dynamics and handling.Originally posted by ///MBan View Post
Thanks - I appreciate the response and I am leaning away from cams at the moment. I have wheels and suspension sorted, but seats are certainly something I've considered if I can get them exactly how I want. I'm also thinking about a higher final drive.
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Thanks - I appreciate the response and I am leaning away from cams at the moment. I have wheels and suspension sorted, but seats are certainly something I've considered if I can get them exactly how I want. I'm also thinking about a higher final drive.Originally posted by EthanolTurbo View Post
I personally don't think cams are worth it but 280/272s do make more torque in the powerband than stock. They feel crazy strong past 4K RPM. That being said, your money is better spent elsewhere (weight reduction, wheels, suspension, seats.)
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I personally don't think cams are worth it but 280/272s do make more torque in the powerband than stock. They feel crazy strong past 4K RPM. That being said, your money is better spent elsewhere (weight reduction, wheels, suspension, seats.)Originally posted by ///MBan View PostCar: Australian (right hand drive, Euro-spec) E86 Z4M Coupe, 28,000km for 'stage 1' and 40,000km by the time I got to ‘stage 3’.
Chart 1: stock versus ‘stage 1’ of Supersprint V1 stepped headers and cat’d s-pipe and a tune by Severn which included data logging on the street and multiple revisions (this is the sixth iteration of the tune). Note that the V1 headers do not clear the steering shaft for RHD cars, so the workshop modified them to fit. Not sure how much worse they are after modification, but they did still make more power high in the rev range than the already very nice Euro-spec headers, even without a tune.
More description here:
https://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1816109
Chart 2: re-baseline dyno of stage 1 vs ‘stage 2’, which was the addition of SS x-pipe, Powerloop mufflers and an Eventuri intake. No re-tune for stage 2.
More description here:
https://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1868864
Chart 3: re-baseline of stage 2 but with the SS x-pipe removed (the rasp and drone were too much for me), the addition of the Karbonius OE style plenum and heavier wheels (BBS RG-Rs, which are about 1kg heavier each than the Advans I had on for the previous dyno runs) versus Karbonius CSL ‘race’ intake and Severn alpha-n tune based on quite a lot of data logging on the street and fine-tuning on the dyno (exhaust mods the same as stage 2).
I changed dynos for these runs simply because it was closer to where I live. Also, I had to superimpose the revs x-axis from a different chart, so it looks a bit funny.
More description here:
https://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2100583
Adding it all up results in about 17% power gain versus stock – see the summary table below. I have to say I’m tempted to do a cam upgrade but the cost is really high and I haven’t found any dyno charts showing the change just from 280/272 camshafts (happy to be corrected if someone can point me in the right direction). I have seen a dyno for 288/280 cams, but the gains were only from around 6,800rpm and I would really want power and torque increases lower than that or I would never notice. I'd love to see a dyno chart showing the change from 280/272 cams alone if anyone has one to share.
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Car: Australian (right hand drive, Euro-spec) E86 Z4M Coupe, 28,000km for 'stage 1' and 40,000km by the time I got to ‘stage 3’.
Chart 1: stock versus ‘stage 1’ of Supersprint V1 stepped headers and cat’d s-pipe and a tune by Severn which included data logging on the street and multiple revisions (this is the sixth iteration of the tune). Note that the V1 headers do not clear the steering shaft for RHD cars, so the workshop modified them to fit. Not sure how much worse they are after modification, but they did still make more power high in the rev range than the already very nice Euro-spec headers, even without a tune.
More description here:
https://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1816109
Chart 2: re-baseline dyno of stage 1 vs ‘stage 2’, which was the addition of SS x-pipe, Powerloop mufflers and an Eventuri intake. No re-tune for stage 2.
More description here:
https://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1868864
Chart 3: re-baseline of stage 2 but with the SS x-pipe removed (the rasp and drone were too much for me), the addition of the Karbonius OE style plenum and heavier wheels (BBS RG-Rs, which are about 1kg heavier each than the Advans I had on for the previous dyno runs) versus Karbonius CSL ‘race’ intake and Severn alpha-n tune based on quite a lot of data logging on the street and fine-tuning on the dyno (exhaust mods the same as stage 2).
I changed dynos for these runs simply because it was closer to where I live. Also, I had to superimpose the revs x-axis from a different chart, so it looks a bit funny.
More description here:
https://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2100583
Adding it all up results in about 17% power gain versus stock – see the summary table below. I have to say I’m tempted to do a cam upgrade but the cost is really high and I haven’t found any dyno charts showing the change just from 280/272 camshafts (happy to be corrected if someone can point me in the right direction). I have seen a dyno for 288/280 cams, but the gains were only from around 6,800rpm and I would really want power and torque increases lower than that or I would never notice. I'd love to see a dyno chart showing the change from 280/272 cams alone if anyone has one to share.
Last edited by ///MBan; 06-09-2024, 12:38 AM.
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Looking for feedback on this run:- Trace looks lumpy 4500-5500 vs other smooth traces here, but car seems to run fine.
- Power tapers off at 7000RPM
S54
Rebuilt S54 in E36 chassis
Cat 280/272 cams
Stepped headers
E46 Section 2 w added resonator mid pipe
E46 Section 3 with Borla thru X muffler exhaust
Z3 Airbox
Thanks.Attached FilesLast edited by StrangeC; 04-06-2024, 04:19 PM.
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Nice. I'll be running close to the same setup except a full SS 63.5MM headers-to-exhaust (Dinan Section 3). Excited to see how it performs before cams.
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2004 E46 M3 - 169k miles
Karbonius CSL airbox w/ carbon snorkel (Stock CSL IAT in original location)
Euro Headers and Section 1
Supersprint Race Section 3
Kassel Performance MSS54HP Full CSL hardware/firmware conversion
Kassel Performance ECU tune
Kassel Performance MAP sensor kit
91 octane
Recent Maintenance:
Rebuilt VANOS w/ Beisan exhaust hub
Rod bearings replaced with ACL bearings
New o2 sensors and spark plugs
345whp, 271wtq - Mustang Dyno
Last edited by marksae; 03-21-2024, 05:46 PM.
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About 101k miles on the motor, not the original. 8k old plugs, sensors, and stuff. Only thing relatively new are the cam sensors.Originally posted by Slideways View Post
Nice! I was expecting a fireball to shoot out the exhaust
How many miles on the engine?
It used with the Evolve tune and the Martyn ECU tool but I think the PCS tune eliminated that.
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Nice! I was expecting a fireball to shoot out the exhaustOriginally posted by bigjae46 View Post325whp/257tq
Megan headers (swaintech coated)
BW race with straight section 2
Injen intake
Paul Claude tune
I’m really surprised, was expecting lower. This kicks me out of NASA TT4. This actually kind of screws me because I setup the car with ballast. Now I need to un-setup the car.
Probably can get more since the car was on the edge of overheating.
How many miles on the engine?
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325whp/257tq
Megan headers (swaintech coated)
BW race with straight section 2
Injen intake
Paul Claude tune
I’m really surprised, was expecting lower. This kicks me out of NASA TT4. This actually kind of screws me because I setup the car with ballast. Now I need to un-setup the car.
Probably can get more since the car was on the edge of overheating.
Last edited by bigjae46; 01-25-2024, 07:43 PM.
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