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    #1

    Karbonius at 140k?

    So im about to pull the trigger on a Karbonius AirBox- my car sits at 140K probably 5K track. Rod bearings done, vanos recently done, and it feels fine. Any issue with adding a mod like this with this kinda miles?

    Thanks.
    Last edited by bassel_sy; 05-05-2020, 10:08 PM.
    • 2006 AW/IR Manual
    • Karbonius Race / Alpha- N
    • Supersprint
    • KW V3
    • 996 Brembo
    • ZCP / PSS
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    #2
    No, not at all. Actually, many of the csl intake owners have between 100-200k miles. I don’t have one myself, but I’ve noticed this over the years. As long as it’s maintained you should be fine, and get the subframe done if it’s not already. 140k isn’t even that high. Enjoy it

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      #3
      The Karbonius airbox won't have any affect on engine age/mileage.

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        #4
        Go for it, you won't be sorry and there's nothing about mileage nor age that precludes you from going forward.
        '05 M3 Convertible 6MT, CB/Cinnamon, CSL Airbox&Flap, PCSTuning, Beisan, Schrick 288/280, SS V1's & 2.5" System, RE Stg 1&SMF, KW V2, CB PS, Apex EC-7R

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          #5
          awesome just purchased ! I’ve checked my subframe 3 times this year no cracks , do you guys think it’s still necessary ?
          • 2006 AW/IR Manual
          • Karbonius Race / Alpha- N
          • Supersprint
          • KW V3
          • 996 Brembo
          • ZCP / PSS

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            #6
            Where'd you get the airbox from?

            Also, checking subframe isn't really effective. It's common consensus that unless you've dropped the subframe, removed and cleaned all underbody seamsealer and then thoroughly inspected, you can't tell if you have cracks or not. Eventually all these cars crack, and if you can see them with the subframe in, you're in trouble.

            Get it done and have the peace of mind to enjoy/mod the car without stress.

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              #7
              Originally posted by jbfrancis3 View Post
              Go for it, you won't be sorry and there's nothing about mileage nor age that precludes you from going forward.
              I feel like there is a life lesson in there somewhere...
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                #8
                Originally posted by BMWahba View Post
                Where'd you get the airbox from?

                Also, checking subframe isn't really effective. It's common consensus that unless you've dropped the subframe, removed and cleaned all underbody seamsealer and then thoroughly inspected, you can't tell if you have cracks or not. Eventually all these cars crack, and if you can see them with the subframe in, you're in trouble.

                Get it done and have the peace of mind to enjoy/mod the car without stress.
                I purchased direct from karbonius , called them last night they said it needs 6-8 weeks. Ahh I see, added to to the list of things that will break the bank. Appreciate the input as always.
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                • 996 Brembo
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bassel_sy View Post
                  awesome just purchased ! I’ve checked my subframe 3 times this year no cracks , do you guys think it’s still necessary ?
                  Yes.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by bassel_sy View Post
                    awesome just purchased ! I’ve checked my subframe 3 times this year no cracks , do you guys think it’s still necessary ?
                    If you wait for cracks, you’re setting yourself up for a huge bill. Before cracks is the cheap time to address it.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by bassel_sy View Post

                      I purchased direct from karbonius , called them last night they said it needs 6-8 weeks. Ahh I see, added to to the list of things that will break the bank. Appreciate the input as always.
                      Probably too late since you placed your order, but I very recently got one from APmotorsport, they are out of the UK. Alex shipped it FAST, left Saturday got here Monday and he was awesome to work with. He also had all the bits you may need to install the airbox in stock.

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                      E46 M3 CSL Airbox made by Karbonius. This is by far the best Carbon Fibre Airbox we have seen and dealt with in the past and the attention to detail is almost identical to the Genuine BMW AG E46 M3 CSL Airbox supplied by BMW, manufactured by Die Wethje. These boxes are made from the finest quality Pre-preg carbon fibre 2 x 2 twill material which when completed makes these boxes ultra light and rigid.After the moulding process is finished in the state of the art Aluminium mould the part is then left in the Autoclave and this process is the finishing touches to a truly superb piece. The 'M Power' sticker which can be seen on the top of the Air collecter is supplied with the Airbox. Option 1Plastic trumpets version: This is the same airbox but with plastic trumpets (same as the OEM CSL). This goes with 2 year warranty. Airbox is cured in autoclave at 120ºC and 3 BAR prssure. (NO LONGER AVAILABLE TO ORDER FROM KARBONIUS) Full carbon trumpets: This piece comes with 5 year warranty. Airbox is cured in autoclave at 135ºC and 5 BAR pressure and has 1 extra varnish coat applied. Option 2Control Unit (Snorkel) - Made by Karbonius (No flap) - made from full Carbon.Control Unit (Snorkel) - Genuine OEM BMW M3 CSL (Includes Flap/ Actuator motor/ Throttle Sensor) - made from Plastic ABS. 11617833498 From July 2020 we now include 4x FREE Genuine BMW (black) bolts 07119901780 to fix both OEM CSL and Karbonius carbon snorkels to main housing (unfiltered part). These are included when ordering the snorkel. Option 3ITG Filter: Germany has claimed 2 BHP more with this filter, and it's preoiled and washableOEM CSL: Genuine BMW M3 CSL Air filter. Manufactured by BMC - 13727838625 Option 4Fitting this CSL Airbox you need the following parts from BMW to fit both Manual & SMG E46 M3s. Air Valve shut off - 1x 11617833647 CSL Crank Case Vent Hose - 1x 11157833649 CSL IAT Sensor - 1x 13621739510 2 pole socket housing for CSL IAT Sensor - 1x 12521427615 90 deg protective boot for 2 pole socket housing - 1x 12521732635 Option 5No Dipstick - Use your standard OEM M3. Must require bending into shape to avoid contact with CSL Airbox.Genuine BMW OEM CSL Dipstick. This is short and fits underneath your airbox. Comes as 2 parts - Guide tube & Dipstick -1x 11437834784 & 1x 11437833653 SMG Vehicles: You can purchase the SMG tank and bracket seperately >>HERE<< If you prefer your Karbonius Airbox to be manufctured in 1x1 carbon twill (instead of the standard 2x2 weave) then please message us after ordering. This is a FREE alternative. If you require additional parts such as air feed components for CSL Front Bumpers or Control Unit flap to be operational then please get in contact with us...... Normally kept in stock - contact us to confirm.If not in stock at time of ordering, please allow 5-8 weeks before dispatch. E46AD02BMW ref:116178334961161783349711617833498
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Cubieman View Post

                        Probably too late since you placed your order, but I very recently got one from APmotorsport, they are out of the UK. Alex shipped it FAST, left Saturday got here Monday and he was awesome to work with. He also had all the bits you may need to install the airbox in stock.

                        https://www.apmotorsport.co.uk/produ...ox-karbonius-1
                        Oh pfftt the GBP is well in our favor now. Sold!
                        '05 M3 Convertible 6MT, CB/Cinnamon, CSL Airbox&Flap, PCSTuning, Beisan, Schrick 288/280, SS V1's & 2.5" System, RE Stg 1&SMF, KW V2, CB PS, Apex EC-7R

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                          #13
                          I did it to my previous m3 at 170k and fell in love with the car all over again.
                          06 ZCP SMG | HTE CSL MAP QuaranTune | SL CSL Airbox | Eventuri Scoop | DMG Strut Bar | RE El Diablo | CPI Euro200R | AP Headers | Porsche BBK | ST XTA | TMS 3-Pulleys/F-Sway/Mono FCAB | AKG Trans/diff/Subframe/RTAB | SPL RCA | SGT SCZA Trunk | ACL | Beisan | Redish | AFD E85 |

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by COVID-19 View Post
                            I did it to my previous m3 at 170k and fell in love with the car all over again.
                            Sí, same here!
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by COVID-19 View Post
                              I did it to my previous m3 at 170k and fell in love with the car all over again.
                              I'm actually really curious to hear thoughts on the SL airbox (you have one right)?

                              I feel like SL's never-materializing group buy on the old m3f ended up with very few people actually wanting to get these boxes, but who knows they might be great.. Anyone know of any tests done to compare the SL box with Karb/OE? They're priced like Turner's but the box allows for a snorkel...

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