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    #46
    Originally posted by GT_M3 View Post
    davidinnyc how much are you into this for so far excluding tools? I’m interested in giving this a shot soon as my POS rack doctor rebuild seems to be on its way out.
    Sent you a DM.

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      #47
      Originally posted by 0-60motorsports View Post

      One of each of the above three? Thanks.
      Yes, correct
      2002 Topasblau M3 - Coupe - 6MT - Karbonius CSL Airbox - MSS54HP Conversion - Kassel MAP - SSV1 - HJS - PCS Tune - Beisan - MK60 Swap - ZCP Rack - Nogaros - AutoSolutions - 996 Brembos - Slon - CMP - VinceBar - Koni - Eibach - BlueBus - Journal

      2012 Alpinweiss 128i - Coupe - 6AT - Slicktop - Manual Seats - Daily - Journal
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        #48
        Originally posted by davidinnyc View Post

        Sent you a DM.
        Got it. Thanks! Very thorough. Very interested to hear how the final product is.

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          #49
          Originally posted by bigjae46 View Post

          I think green is e46 m3
          You're right. Saw the tag color on my steering rack in my rod bearing DIY.

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            #50
            Just saw this video, seems like another good reference for anyone attempting this rebuild: https://youtu.be/Gh22cQBrgb8
            2002 Topasblau M3 - Coupe - 6MT - Karbonius CSL Airbox - MSS54HP Conversion - Kassel MAP - SSV1 - HJS - PCS Tune - Beisan - MK60 Swap - ZCP Rack - Nogaros - AutoSolutions - 996 Brembos - Slon - CMP - VinceBar - Koni - Eibach - BlueBus - Journal

            2012 Alpinweiss 128i - Coupe - 6AT - Slicktop - Manual Seats - Daily - Journal

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              #51
              Originally posted by bimmerfan08 View Post
              Can someone remind me which cars and/or steering ratios correlate with the different colored tags? I used to know but have forgotten over the years. I know E46 M3 ZCP and Z4M coupe racks were highly sought after.
              1. Green is Z4M coupe, correct?
              2. Purple?
              3. Blue?
              4. Yellow is E46 330, correct?

              Side note, this is an interesting thread related to the subject. Comprehensive Steering Information Thread
              These are all LHD racks:

              Green tag z3 non-m 1.9L (2.7 turns lock to lock)
              Green tag is also e46M3 non-ZCP (3.2 turns lock to lock)
              Purple is from the US e46 325i (3.0 turn lock to lock)
              Yellow 712 rack is from a US e46 330i ZHP (3.0 turn lock to lock, but has better steering feel vs the purple above)
              Blue is e46m3 ZCP/CSL rack (3.0 turn lock to lock)
              Phoenix Yellow e46m3 Build Thread
              Japanrot Red E46 330i Msport k24/dct/turbo Build Thread

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                #52
                Rebuild
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                  #53
                  I might upload a video since I’ve rebuilt 6 steering racks already. Then you guys could see the tools I built to remove and reinstall the seals and bearings!
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                    #54
                    Originally posted by davidinnyc View Post
                    I might upload a video since I’ve rebuilt 6 steering racks already. Then you guys could see the tools I built to remove and reinstall the seals and bearings!
                    please do!!

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                      #55
                      After watching that video, I’m pretty confident that using anything other than the MSG seal puller that I use is the only way to remove the inner seal without damaging the internals of the steering rack. The aluminum is coated on the inside and any scratches will only introduce opportunities for future cracks and failure.
                      Last edited by davidinnyc; 05-02-2024, 08:50 PM.
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                        #56
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                        I have been using this steering rack for about 3 months now and it's been great so far. Feels better then the Blue rack from BMW.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by davidinnyc View Post
                          After watching that video, I’m pretty confident that using anything other than the MSG seal puller that I use is the only way to remove the inner seal without damaging the internals of the steering rack. The aluminum is coated on the inside and any scratches will only introduce opportunities for future cracks and failure.
                          Do you have a link to the tool?
                          2002 Topasblau M3 - Coupe - 6MT - Karbonius CSL Airbox - MSS54HP Conversion - Kassel MAP - SSV1 - HJS - PCS Tune - Beisan - MK60 Swap - ZCP Rack - Nogaros - AutoSolutions - 996 Brembos - Slon - CMP - VinceBar - Koni - Eibach - BlueBus - Journal

                          2012 Alpinweiss 128i - Coupe - 6AT - Slicktop - Manual Seats - Daily - Journal

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by heinzboehmer View Post

                            Do you have a link to the tool?
                            MS00058 - Slide hammer oil seals extractor (servicems.eu)​ $335.00

                            You'll need this extractor tip. Note: I bought an extra because these tend to get damaged pretty easily by the mechanism itself, not necessarily from the oil seals or the rack. The inner bulb is squeezed between two metal lips and starts to wear.

                            MS00059 - Slide hammer head (servicems.eu)​ $50.00

                            Total: $385.00                             (shipping is included in the prices above - they might be priced differently today but that's what I paid)

                            It's not the most expensive tool for these cars but it certainly is one of the more expensive one-time use tools.
                            Last edited by davidinnyc; 05-03-2024, 11:32 AM.
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                              #59
                              For the pinion seal, I had a 7/8" fiberglass dowel created so I could use that as a "pusher rod". There's no need to buy the pinion seal extractor that MSG sells. You could probably get away with a 7/8" wooden dowel from Home Depot, too.

                              To install the seals I fashioned two PVC "insertion rods" (not sure what to call them) so that they would hold the seals steady while they are slid into both the steering and pinion tubes. I wouldn't use the steering rack to install the inner seals like the two more popular videos show because, well, you don't want metal marring the inside of the tubes. I'm actually pretty shocked at the use of the flat-head screwdrivers for anything inside of the tubes because the internal coating is VERY delicate. I would know because I bought a cracked steering rack to practice on and you can easily, EASILY damage these things if you're not patient and careful.
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                                #60
                                Decided to try out a rebuilder out of Michigan--shlpped them the rack that I cleaned up (exterior), new seals, internal bearings, new hydro pipes, boots, (inner) tie rods (I supplied) and going in next week....
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                                Last edited by PSUEng; 11-07-2024, 04:54 AM.

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