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    FWIW, while trying to find a pic of the Nissan cross bars/braces, I found this:

    https://usa.nissannews.com/en-US/rel...e0f3e410e3b48#

    Backs up the 2.5% Ian found. I thought the braces were only a rear V brace and front suspension crossmember brace, but it looks like it might be a 3rd brace too (rear strut towers?), as depicted in the image above, I just missed it.

    Regardless given that, the 2.5% isn't quite as impressive as I originally thought. The Slon stuff on the other hand... is
    Build thread: Topaz Blue to Shark Blue

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      Originally posted by Cronenberged View Post
      So, what source do you need it to come from and at what percentage should it be?
      Are you assuming from the fact that I chimed in there that I'm against this mod? If so, I'd suggest reading my other posts in this thread. 😉
      2008 M3 Sedan 6MT
      Slicktop, no iDrive | Öhlins by 3DM Motorsport | Autosolutions | SPL

      2012 Mazda5 6MT
      Koni Special Active, Volvo parts

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        Originally posted by oceansize View Post
        It is times like these I'm glad I own a vert. It sure has saved me a lot of money since I don't need CF fenders, roofs, bumpers, strut braces, deck lids, and walls. Cause god knows I'd probably buy it all....
        Where's the fun in that? That's like saying good thing you're married otherwise you'd be doing cok...nevermind.
        2003.5 MT JB/B - CSL SCHRICK SUPERSPRINT EISENMANN JRZ SWIFT MILLWAY APR ENDLESS BBS/SSR DREXLER KMP SACHS RECARO AR SLON MKRS GSP DMG KARBONIUS CP AUTOSOLUTIONS KOYO

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          Originally posted by Obioban View Post

          I disagree. They measured it over multiple chassis. I’m not sure what more you could ask for.
          Video of the test in action and results probably would do the trick
          http://www.natehasslerphoto.com
          '99 M3, Hellrot/Sand Beige, slicktop
          '01 M3, Imola/black

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            Originally posted by Obioban View Post
            DIY

            I know the car is dirty. I’m currently building a house, and the driveway isn’t paved yet. Keeping the car clean is just a non starter at the moment.

            This was actually a pretty easy project, if slightly scary because you only get once chance to bond the part correctly. The entire project took ~3 hours of labor, taking my time, but with a 24 hour block in the middle where I let the epoxy set. There’s a lot of doing/undoing/redoing, but once the part is installed you won’t have to deal with that again.

            I’m going to steal some pictures from the SLON Workshop instructions and use some of my own.

            The project basically has 5 phases:
            1. Disassembly
            2. Prep work
            3. Test fit
            4. Epoxy, partially assemble, tighten

            (wait epoxy cure time)

            5. Disassemble and reassemble with all the non bracing parts (firewall plug, cabin air filter housing) installed

            The project should be completed with the weight of the car on its wheels (not jacked up). The flatter the surface you can do it on, the better, though that’s less critical than having it on it’s wheels— that’ll let the suspension level the load as much as possible, so you’re not bracing the chassis in a tweaked position.

            1. Disassembly

            Remove all the stock parts- stock strut tower brace, stock cabin air filter housing, stock firewall plug, wiper arms, and the lower windshield cowl (just pull straight up to remove this, it’s push pins). The only part that was a bit tricky here was removing the wiper arm, perhaps because they’ve never been removed from my car in 19 years. Prying is NOT the option to go for here, because the surface below is the glass of your windshield. What I found worked perfectly was a valve spring compressor I bought a while back to rebuild my lawnmower engine— IIRC the tool was $10 at Advance Auto Parts.​​

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            2. Test fit

            I would not skip a test fit! Couple of reasons to do it:
            a) if your chassis is tweaked, better to know this won’t fit BEFORE you epoxy pieces in
            b) Next time you do this, it’ll be under the time pressure of setting epoxy. Good to have a practice run under your belt.

            There are 5 M8 bolts that come with the kit, of 3 different types.​​

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            Bolt 3 attaches the the mount bracket to the car while the epoxy sets. Take Bolt 3 and use it to temporarily loosely (so that it can still move) affix the mounting bracket (plate that gets epoxied in) behind the center wind shield cowl hole:

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            Install the strut tower brace (reusing the stock strut tower brace hardware, and install the adapter bracket between them. Bolt 2 (2X) in the picture above goes between the strut tower brace and the adapter bracket. Bolt 1 (2X) in the picture above goes between the mount bracket and adapter bracket.

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            Tighten all hardware to 25 nm, check fitment. Assuming everything fits properly and you feel comfortable with how everything bolts together, it’s time to move on to….


            3. Prep work

            Take the adapter bracket and strut tower brace out.

            Close the vents on the HVAC system to prevent debris from falling in. With gentle but steady pressure you can close the fresh air doors on the heater case to keep debris/sanding dust out of the HVAC system while working in the area.

            Use a marker to trace the edges of the mount plate on the metal. Remove the M8 Bolt and mount bracket. Put down some sort of drop towel or paper so that paint/metal dust don’t get into your climate control system area. Use 180-220 grit sandpaper to sand within the area you marked. You don’t have to get down to bare metal, but you do have to get through the paint and into the primer.​​

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            The kit includes a plastic wedge— you can use this to sand the areas that are difficult to get into with your fingers:

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            Don’t half ass this step— it’s what will give your plate a good bond.


            CSL Airbox only step 3B:
            If you have a CSL airbox, you will need to replace the check valve on top with the one SLON includes with the kit.
            If you have a stock airbox, ignore this step and set the check valve aside for when you inevitably get a CSL airbox.

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            4. Epoxy time

            First off, practice inserting the mount bracket in such a way that you won’t wipe off the epoxy as you insert it. I found that if you hold the bracket at ~45º to the firewall, and insert it right at the bolt location, you can do so without any contact.

            Next, lightly grease the threads of bolt 3. It will be removed after the epoxy sets, and that’s not going to be easy if it’s structurally adhered. But, you don’t want to use so much that it overflows out of the threads, either.

            Finally, change your greasy gloves and prep the parts. Use a degreaser to throughly clean the area you sanded as well as the bonding surface of the mounting bracket.

            Look over everything, make sure you know where everything you used for the test fitting is. Squirt a little epoxy out of the mixing nozzle, in case the initial bit isn’t mixed. Then, apply your structural adhesive to the mounting bracket mating surfaces:​​

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            More from Bry5on, as he is far more experienced with this kind of bonding than me:


            Pics

            With that, the race is on.

            a) use your practiced gesture to insert the mount without smearing the epoxy off. Fasten lightly using the (now greased) bolt 3. The goal here is to get this snug enough that it can hold its position, but loose enough you can still move it around a bit as you install the other parts. Use the included plastic wedge under the rear of the mount to ensure good contact between the rear of the mount and metal:​​

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            b) install the strut tower brace. As much as possible, center it left/right between the towers. Don’t tighten yet.
            c) install the adapter bracket between the mount and strut tower brace
            d) make everything snug, not tight (so parts can move as other parts are fully tightened down)
            e) tighten in the following order:
            1) strut tower brace bolts (6X)— 24 Nm
            2) strut tower brace to adapter bracket (2X) - 40 Nm
            3) adapter bracket to mount (2x) - 40 Nm
            4) mount to firewall— 30 Nm
            The goal here is to not create any tolerance stack ups here that’ll bite you down the road— so use the ability to slightly tweak where the mount is adhered to the firewall to make sure you have good fitment in the future.

            ——————————————————
            With that complete, let your heart rate settle. Instead of wanting the epoxy to cure more slowly, now it can’t happen soon enough. Let the adhesive cure. I gave it a full 24 hours, because more better and I have years to enjoy this... I can suffer through waiting to drive it now...
            ——————————————————

            5. Assembly isn’t opposite of disassembly.

            Take everything out again, other than the epoxied in bracket. But, do remove and discard the 8mm greased bolt that held it the mount in place as the epoxy cured. Don’t forget to remove the plastic wedge you jammed under the mounting bracket!

            Parts have to go together in a very specific order. Failure to do so will result in you doing it twice.
            Parts have to go together in a very specific order. Failure to do so will result in you doing it twice.
            a) install the (cork/CF) firewall plug. Note that the squares on the mount brackets key into the squares on the firewall plug. Align the keyed squares first, then use fasteners (either stock or the ones included with the kit) and included circular spacers to secure the firewall plug in place, holding that keyed location. Reinstall the hardware that attaches the side pod plastic trim to the firewall plug. Reinstall windshield cowl.
            N.B.: use the included circular spacers between the firewall plug and firewall at the hardware wall location.
            If you don’t use the spacers, the firewall plug will likely crack. If you don’t align/key the firewall plug square to the mount bracket, you’ll have changed your clearances and it won’t go back together.​

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            b) reinstall, for the last time, the strut tower brace. Don’t fully tighten.
            c) run the 2 wires (that get attached to the cabin air filter housing) over the strut tower brace
            d) install adapter bracket, loosely. Fully tighten strut tower brace to strut towers (25 nm). Fully tighten adapter bracket to mount bracket (40 nm). Fully tighten adapter bracket to strut tower brace (40 nm).
            e) remove bolts that attach adapter bracket to mount bracket
            f) transfer gaskets/drains from stock cabin air filter housing to new, SLON version. install cabin air filter housing. The two center fasteners are the fasteners that attach the adapter bracket to the mount. Insert the two included square spacers through the cabin air filter housing, keying them into the mount bracket. Install the two bolts that attach the adapter bracket to mount bracket for the last time, and tighten to 40 nm.​​

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            g) insert cabin air filter
            h) transfer pins from stock cabin air filter cover to SLON CF version. Install
            i) run the engine wires through the SLON wire guide and clip the cover into place.
            j) reinstall wiper blades


            Complete.​​

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            I did this today. Thanks for the DIY.

            I’m left handed and the sanding was awkward for me so I just capitulated, removed the messy bags I had in place, and sanded with no protection.

            Climate control be damned lol!

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              Slon really knocked it out of the park with this bar. Add it to the never ending list of stuff to put on my m3.

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                Originally posted by Advorsor View Post

                I did this today. Thanks for the DIY.

                I’m left handed and the sanding was awkward for me so I just capitulated, removed the messy bags I had in place, and sanded with no protection.

                Climate control be damned lol!
                Excellent! Looking forward to driving impressions

                2005 IR/IR M3 Coupe
                2012 LMB/Black 128i
                2008 Black/Black M5 Sedan

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                  Good to hear thoughts on this piece. As someone who has tracked with the stock bar and without. It adds rigidity and stability to the front. However, I do feel that it has decreased input response on turn in, but it MIGHT be the fact that my tires might be a little heat cycled out.

                  For people considering this vs 20+ track days. I'd probably suggest getting a cheaper bar and doing track days instead.

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                    Originally posted by Obioban View Post
                    No affiliation, but it appears IND has one in stock, if you want one and don't want to wait:
                    https://ind-distribution.com/product...5727c149&_ss=r
                    Curious, since you’re mentioning “no affiliation” to IND. Do you have an affiliation with Slon?
                    Do they sponsor or give you a discounted price on this part? Do they offer the forum Moderators discounted pricing?
                    6MT SLICKTOP - OE CSL Wheels - OE CSL Brakes - CSL Rack - CSL Trunk - CSL Diffuser - AA Tune - AA Pulleys- AS 40% SSK - 4.10 Motorsport Diff - Bilstein PSS9s - H&R Swaybars - CSL Lip - Gruppe M CF Intake - Supersprint - M Track Mode

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                      I'm sponsored by Slon. Our deal works like this:

                      I give them money and in exchange they give me parts. 🤑
                      Build thread: Topaz Blue to Shark Blue

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                        Originally posted by old///MFanatic View Post
                        Curious, since you’re mentioning “no affiliation” to IND. Do you have an affiliation with Slon?
                        Do they sponsor or give you a discounted price on this part? Do they offer the forum Moderators discounted pricing?
                        This came up earlier in the thread, but no on the front brace.

                        On the rear wall I was a participant in the GB, so I did get a discount on that— but the same discount anyone else got if they partook.

                        2005 IR/IR M3 Coupe
                        2012 LMB/Black 128i
                        2008 Black/Black M5 Sedan

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                          Dirty job.

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                          2005 IR/IR M3 Coupe
                          2012 LMB/Black 128i
                          2008 Black/Black M5 Sedan

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                            Originally posted by Obioban View Post
                            Dirty job.

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                            Nice! Excited to hear your thoughts
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                              Originally posted by Obioban View Post
                              Dirty job.
                              Just FYI. Mike Rowe is hiring.

                              Cool photo, also can't wait to hear your impressions.
                              Build thread: Topaz Blue to Shark Blue

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                                Originally posted by Obioban View Post
                                Dirty job.

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                                Please tell me a DIY is coming for this!

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