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    Originally posted by Epsilon View Post
    The EuroConnex emails I get mentioned the Haimus airbox GB coming soon.
    would be in if true

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      If your company/product was/is so great, then why change the name??? It’s been my general experience that often when a company changes names…it’s due to legal issues or some shady ass past business dealings.

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        Originally posted by Advorsor View Post

        would be in if true
        He's working it, that's why it's listed as a future GB opportunity

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          If it does happen, hopefully they can change the carbon weave direction to the same as OE.

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            Originally posted by repoman89 View Post

            interesting that 99% of posts about Karb are positive, including about their customer service in some cases well past the warranty expiration
            yes, they are responsive, but let me tell you, since my box is out of warranty i was told I had to send it to them for inspection, service, and corrections, and postage both way would be on my dime as well as the cost to refurb it; all good, just not as hassle free as some may think
            Last edited by maupineda; 11-15-2021, 06:06 PM.

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              What's the deal with the Karbonius race style airbox?

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                Originally posted by Kdubski View Post
                What's the deal with the Karbonius race style airbox?
                Integrated snorkel.

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                  Originally posted by jet_dogg View Post

                  The reason being that karb is unavailable for group buy at this time, strictly a business move.
                  Not exactly - but keep thinking you're good at judging people's intents - makes you predictable

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                    I bought the Turner box. It’s definitely harder to fit than the factory non-CSL intake manifold. But worth the price difference between it’s competitors. Not sure how true, but per Turner, it achieves more power over the genuine CSL box.

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ID:	169144 Picked up a Turner box myself. Haven’t installed it yet, but the build quality seems surprisingly good. I heard about the horror stories with the previous generation airboxes. Hopefully this holds up. Fingers crossed.
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                        Originally posted by Epoustouflant View Post

                        Not exactly - but keep thinking you're good at judging people's intents - makes you predictable
                        Predictably rational, I'll take it 😎

                        Originally posted by /M3 View Post
                        I bought the Turner box. It’s definitely harder to fit than the factory non-CSL intake manifold. But worth the price difference between it’s competitors. Not sure how true, but per Turner, it achieves more power over the genuine CSL box.
                        I just looked up the price and was surprised it cost that much. For $370 more you can get a non-chinesium, 100% carbon pre-preg airbox with no questionable structural/fitment issues that is the best replica on the market.

                        Doesn't sound like it's worth the price difference to me, glad it is for you, however.
                        2003.5 MT JB/B - CSL SCHRICK SUPERSPRINT EISENMANN JRZ SWIFT MILLWAY APR ENDLESS BBS/SSR DREXLER KMP SACHS RECARO AR SLON MKRS GSP DMG KARBONIUS CP AUTOSOLUTIONS KOYO

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                          Originally posted by jet_dogg View Post

                          Predictably rational, I'll take it 😎



                          I just looked up the price and was surprised it cost that much. For $370 more you can get a non-chinesium, 100% carbon pre-preg airbox with no questionable structural/fitment issues that is the best replica on the market.

                          Doesn't sound like it's worth the price difference to me, glad it is for you, however.
                          Paid $1288 for the kit a month ago, champ. Plus the OE filter and the MAP sensor kit made/sold by a forum member. Still under $1600.

                          Again, price is far cheaper. But the real point is that Turner claims that their box surpassed the OE CSL box in making more power. That we have been seeing lately with dyno results, although not fair to compare due to differences in drivability goals between tuners and BMW in 2002, but at least compared to the E46 CSL car.

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                            Originally posted by /M3 View Post

                            Paid $1288 for the kit a month ago, champ. Plus the OE filter and the MAP sensor kit made/sold by a forum member. Still under $1600.

                            Again, price is far cheaper. But the real point is that Turner claims that their box surpassed the OE CSL box in making more power. That we have been seeing lately with dyno results, although not fair to compare due to differences in drivability goals between tuners and BMW in 2002, but at least compared to the E46 CSL car.
                            You said "worth the price difference", not the "thrift find price I paid as opposed to comparing the two directly on turner's site", champ.

                            Whose dyno results? Are you comparing tuned street car gains to stock csl gain over the standard m3?
                            2003.5 MT JB/B - CSL SCHRICK SUPERSPRINT EISENMANN JRZ SWIFT MILLWAY APR ENDLESS BBS/SSR DREXLER KMP SACHS RECARO AR SLON MKRS GSP DMG KARBONIUS CP AUTOSOLUTIONS KOYO

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                              It still baffles me that people are willing to save a few hundred dollars on something as critical as the airbox. I would only get karb at this point.
                              I call BS on turner out performing the OE box and it certainly wouldn't outperform the karb. As Jet said, I bet any power gain it has over the stock box is comparing a dyno tuned turner box vs stock CSL numbers. The turner box has no lower snorkel or anything, it's drawing far more hot air in.

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                                People will believe anything and question nothing.

                                I ceased being baffled after joining this forum where people ship used oil back.
                                2003.5 MT JB/B - CSL SCHRICK SUPERSPRINT EISENMANN JRZ SWIFT MILLWAY APR ENDLESS BBS/SSR DREXLER KMP SACHS RECARO AR SLON MKRS GSP DMG KARBONIUS CP AUTOSOLUTIONS KOYO

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