Dumb Question Thread - No Flaming Allowed

[IamFODI]

The bearings on Vorshlags are apparently bulletproof. Haven't heard as many good things about other brands.

Yep.

I remember seeing somewhere that Vorshlag tends to use hideously oversized bearings compared to other brands. Makes sense that that'd help IMO – especially as the bearing gets a lot of axial load, which isn't a spherical bearing's strong suit.

[0-60motorsports]

I've ran GC Race camber plates for a while when my M3 was my daily. The spherical bearing lasted about 2 years before it started clunking. Street use just tends to pulverize sphericals lol.

Will never use GC's crappy products again and then deal with their crappy non existent customer service. VORSHLAG is perfect and TMS too.

[zzyzx85]

I've ran GC Race camber plates for a while when my M3 was my daily. The spherical bearing lasted about 2 years before it started clunking. Street use just tends to pulverize sphericals lol.

[Cubieman]

It's really too bad as Turner had legitimately good stuff.

It would seem they like many others during the covid years changed for the worse in regards to quality.

Thats crazy they are shipping camber plates that don't camber.

[bavarian3]

Always flattered to get a mention. 🙏

Here's another relevant one: https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/e...e-nla%E2%80%A6

Both E9x chassis – not E46. So, a lot of the fitment BS might not apply to you all. But I guess the company/manufacturing BS might.

The design concept behind these plates is really cool IMO. I like that the monoball is poly-isolated and sealed, and that the main plate conforms nicely to the strut tower.

At the same time... I've had spherical bearing failure on mine, whereas I don't think I've ever heard of that happening with Vorshlag. Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.

ECS's incompetence knows no bounds 😂

The shape of the plates is certainly a nice feature. I would use reinforcement plates regardless, as I do with Vorshlags. The bearings on Vorshlags are apparently bulletproof. Haven't heard as many good things about other brands.

I tried to fit hybrid GC plates on another damper set and couldn't get the necessary support or parts needed to fit them. Gave up and sold them. Camber plates are one of those parts that can be annoying with all the different configuration possibilities.

[Cubieman]

Hmm, I wonder if the E46 plates have suffered a similar fate at all, I could see them cheapening the design across the board.

Might just have to grab some GC street plates/2.5" perches.

[IamFODI]

I would read this, not to scare you off, but just to be prepared: link

If they show anything like "shipping on x date" I wouldn't bother. Looks like they're in stock as of now.

edit - but the 2.5" perches are not in stock 💀

Always flattered to get a mention. 🙏

Here's another relevant one: https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/e...e-nla%E2%80%A6

Both E9x chassis – not E46. So, a lot of the fitment BS might not apply to you all. But I guess the company/manufacturing BS might.

The design concept behind these plates is really cool IMO. I like that the monoball is poly-isolated and sealed, and that the main plate conforms nicely to the strut tower.

At the same time... I've had spherical bearing failure on mine, whereas I don't think I've ever heard of that happening with Vorshlag. Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.

[bavarian3]

Sounds like Turner plates, stock RSM's with reinforcement plates, stock links to go with the Ohlin's.
I cannot wait to see what this vehicle feels like when not on BC's, still need to read up on rates and all that as my suspension knowledge base is rather limited.

I would read this, not to scare you off, but just to be prepared: link

If they show anything like "shipping on x date" I wouldn't bother. Looks like they're in stock as of now.

edit - but the 2.5" perches are not in stock 💀

[Cubieman]

If you're willing to go "all-in" like it appears you're doing you may want to also consider replacing the rear trailing arm bushings with Synchro Design Works assuming of course your have stock rubber bushings. https://syncrodesignworks.com/products/rtabs

I threw some Tuner RTAB'S in along with CMP S.F bushes when I did the Vincebar. I do wish I would have gone with the SDW's as they are more easy to rebuild.

[BMWE46M3]

Sounds like Turner plates, stock RSM's with reinforcement plates, stock links to go with the Ohlin's.
I cannot wait to see what this vehicle feels like when not on BC's, still need to read up on rates and all that as my suspension knowledge base is rather limited.

If you're willing to go "all-in" like it appears you're doing you may want to also consider replacing the rear trailing arm bushings with Synchro Design Works assuming of course your have stock rubber bushings. https://syncrodesignworks.com/products/rtabs

[Cubieman]

Sounds like Turner plates, stock RSM's with reinforcement plates, stock links to go with the Ohlin's.
I cannot wait to see what this vehicle feels like when not on BC's, still need to read up on rates and all that as my suspension knowledge base is rather limited.

[fattycharged]

Thinking of buying some Ohlin's R&T to replace my shit BC coilovers, this is a 90% street driven car.

- What camber plates should I be looking at that are good for the street and quality?

- RSM's I am thinking stock but if some Vorshlag or similar RSM's don't add a ton of NVH I could go that way too.

- I don't see endlinks included, what's a popular option here with the R&T's?

TMS hybrids are nice


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[Slideways]

Roads are actually pretty good here.
So the Turner plates plates are considered a decent product as compared to a Vorshlag/G.C?

Yes, they mimic the factory plates but include camber and caster adjustment. GC is another good street option as they use a bushing and the factory INA bearing. Vorshlag use a spherical bearing instead of a bushing.

[IamFODI]

Thinking of buying some Ohlin's R&T to replace my shit BC coilovers

As the well-known philosopher Pete Mitchell once said:

"Don't think – just do."

[zzyzx85]

I've been happy with Ground Control suspension components. Currently using GC Street camber plates, RSM, and front endlinks.