Everything about Fat Cat Motorsport Suspension

[bigjae46]

I was told your current set up was well over $5,000+. Too rich for my blood.

That’s relatively cheap when you consider the cost to setup the suspension.

Track fees, fuel, tires, brakes, wear and tear, etc.


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[EthanolTurbo]

you're looking at ~10 pounds weight savings per side assuming BK and OE hardware

closer to ~20 pounds weight savings per side if you go with the Sparco SPX (pricy, but probably the best reclining seat on the market at the moment)

This is a big reason I'm taking my Sportster CS out of the M3 and putting them in the M5... definitely more suited to that car. I believe Cobra Nogaros or Recaro PP will net about 40 lbs per side savings IIRC.

[cobra]

That’s relatively cheap when you consider the cost to setup the suspension.

Track fees, fuel, tires, brakes, wear and tear, etc.


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Aren't they just non-adjustable H&R's (Bilstein's) with a tune? So $1400 for parts and $3600 for a tune?

[bigjae46]

Aren't they just non-adjustable H&R's (Bilstein's) with a tune? So $1400 for parts and $3600 for a tune?

And most people spend a lot more than $3600 at the track getting their suspension right.


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[Obioban]

Aren't they just non-adjustable H&R's (Bilstein's) with a tune? So $1400 for parts and $3600 for a tune?

It’s cheaper if you just do their revalve service. It gets pricier when they start adding hardware.

[cobra]

It’s cheaper if you just do their revalve service. It gets pricier when they start adding hardware.

Oh I see - so hardware like springs, swaybars, etc?

[Obioban]

Oh I see - so hardware like springs, swaybars, etc?

No— like blowoff valves internal to the shocks.

[usdmej]

This is a big reason I'm taking my Sportster CS out of the M3 and putting them in the M5... definitely more suited to that car. I believe Cobra Nogaros or Recaro PP will net about 40 lbs per side savings IIRC.

much closer to 30 pounds per side if you run a pole position. Nogaros are relatively heavy as far as fixed back seats go, i wouldnt be surprised if the leather versions put you only in the 20lbs/side savings range

[Obioban]

much closer to 30 pounds per side if you run a pole position. Nogaros are relatively heavy as far as fixed back seats go, i wouldnt be surprised if the leather versions put you only in the 20lbs/side savings range

I saved 59 lbs total, going from heated/leather/power stock seats, to CFRP nogaros/leather/heated/manual e46 sliders-- just under 30 lbs per seat saved.

... CF Nogaros would have saved another ~10 lbs per seat, but... $$$.

[EthanolTurbo]

I saved 59 lbs total, going from heated/leather/power stock seats, to CFRP nogaros/leather/heated/manual e46 sliders-- just under 30 lbs per seat saved.

... CF Nogaros would have saved another ~10 lbs per seat, but... $$$.

Yeah not worth the $$$. Has anyone here documented the weight savings with Recaro PP ABE?

[Thoglan]

Yeah not worth the $$$. Has anyone here documented the weight savings with Recaro PP ABE?

IIRC PP ABE's are 2 or 3kg lighter than nogaros.

[usdmej]

Yeah not worth the $$$. Has anyone here documented the weight savings with Recaro PP ABE?

pretty much the same weight savings as running a pole position. they're within a pound of each other