MSS6x Flasher - Now released!

[Flaco]

The limiter brings up a good point tho. Is there a way to make the soft limiter a hard limiter? Hate the way it just retards timing / closes throttle as redline approaches. Much rather have fuel cutoff.

[omhl]

What hardware are you running that 8600rpm is beneficial?

this is primary a R&D thread... i don't think it has to be beneficial just to justify doing testing or trying things out.
That being said e92 m3 has a soft limiter. It is easier to see if this soft limiter by setting a higher rpm vs one thats too close to stock.
That way its easier to see if the changes i make to other mappings is fixes the issue or not.

[Obioban]

So I went to the dyno today but it seems like the RPM is redlines at 8300. Even though I modified it to 8600. I checked with ECUWorx tool to see if I did it correctly in tunerpro and it shows up as 8600rpm.

Is this because the RPM limiter is outside of the tune parameters and lives in the Program portion of it?

What hardware are you running that 8600rpm is beneficial?

[Flaco]

I wonder if your tuner figured out how to block reads then. I must have done a hundred reads on 160E without issue.

Confirmed. Flashed back to stock and was able to read full and tune. Flashed tune again and got the same 'something went wrong' error.

[omhl]

I also want to mention that I lifted the temperature RPM limiter as well to 8600. So thats not the issue.

I'm doing a full bin pull and see what addresses are actually being written by the Tune button. Maybe its something else.

On the mapping side of things:
I see a few tables with 8300 8300 8300.

And also some like 8300 7800 7600 7400 7200 7000. I'm suspecting that its coming from a standing limiter when front wheel speed sensor shows 0.

Probably looking for a 8x1 table similar to the 8x1 RPM PER Gear Table. Since N+7 gears for DCT.

UPDATE: yeah all the calibrations got written correctly. wonder if im missing something for dyno limiter.

[dpaul]

So I went to the dyno today but it seems like the RPM is redlines at 8300. Even though I modified it to 8600. I checked with ECUWorx tool to see if I did it correctly in tunerpro and it shows up as 8600rpm.

Is this because the RPM limiter is outside of the tune parameters and lives in the Program portion of it?

No, RPM limit tables are within the calibration (0da) data. There must be some other problem. Maybe Martyn can comment

[terra]

So I went to the dyno today but it seems like the RPM is redlines at 8300. Even though I modified it to 8600. I checked with ECUWorx tool to see if I did it correctly in tunerpro and it shows up as 8600rpm.

Is this because the RPM limiter is outside of the tune parameters and lives in the Program portion of it?

I did see a few places where there seemed to be a hard coded rpm limit, but it also seemed like said limit was at 9k RPM

[omhl]

So I went to the dyno today but it seems like the RPM is redlines at 8300. Even though I modified it to 8600. I checked with ECUWorx tool to see if I did it correctly in tunerpro and it shows up as 8600rpm.

Is this because the RPM limiter is outside of the tune parameters and lives in the Program portion of it?

[terra]

ALL OF THE ABOVE SAID, casual inspection of the flasher code does not reveal a reason why 200E program version should not be acceptable, although I could have missed it.

If you were able to get a full read, what step did you try that failed? What error message do you get?

The only thing I could think of is if he is not actually on 200E, which would mean that using the ZIF to determine the current program version isn't reliable (I figured it would be since WinKFP uses that for the check).

[alfalfa]

Would you mind uploading your 200E read? I'd like to compare it to the 240E reads I have.

Same here. :-)

[Martyn]

Sorry, not trying to clog up the forum post, is there a method to upgrade the dme program version myself or does the dealership have to do?

Was able to still get a full read. But Cannot proceed beyond this step with 200e.

Would you mind uploading your 200E read? I'd like to compare it to the 240E reads I have.

[dpaul]

ALL OF THE ABOVE SAID, casual inspection of the flasher code does not reveal a reason why 200E program version should not be acceptable, although I could have missed it.

If you were able to get a full read, what step did you try that failed? What error message do you get?

[dpaul]

Sorry, not trying to clog up the forum post, is there a method to upgrade the dme program version myself or does the dealership have to do?

Was able to still get a full read. But Cannot proceed beyond this step with 200e.

You have quite a bit of learning to do but it is a well trodden path and it is not difficult. There are many threads on multiple forums describing how to set up and use the software you will need.

1) You should start by installing BMW Standard Tools, which will include a program called WinKFP that can be used to flash the upgrade from 200E to 241E. You can get a link to Standard Tools at bimmergeeks.net/downloads.

2) You will also need to download a reasonably current SP-daten, which contains the program and calibration files that WinKFP will flash - again, links available at the bimmergeeks site. You'll only need to download the E89 daten, which needs to be installed using "BMW Coding Tool" - Bimmergeeks includes it in the BMW Standard Tools download in the EC-APPS->CodingTool directory.

3) You MUST have the proper cable or you will brick your DME - Terra has described this at length. You can either buy the cable from Bimmergeeks or modify one that you get from ebay or some other source. Likely far easier for you to just buy it - $45.

If you've gotten that far, do not start with WinKFP- first verify your installation is correct using INPA to read some information from your vehicle. Again, there are many threads describing how to set up Standard Tools and use INPA, NCSExpert and WinKFP. Ask for help if you need it but try searching first.

[Bdeberrye92]

Because your DME probably is on 200E, 240/241E is the latest.

Sorry, not trying to clog up the forum post, is there a method to upgrade the dme program version myself or does the dealership have to do?

Was able to still get a full read. But Cannot proceed beyond this step with 200e.

[Martyn]

Why do I get a 200E program version when I load up the flasher and click identify dme?

Because your DME probably is on 200E, 240/241E is the latest.