What Else Should I Change When I do My Clutch?

[sapote]

Wow, the original pin looks not bad at all, so I’m in the camp that don’t need the brass or ss pin replacement.

[heinzboehmer]

Wow, the original pin looks not bad at all, so I’m in the camp that don’t need the brass or ss pin replacement.

Yeah I agree. I would choose the stock plastic pin over the metal ones if I were doing this again.

[0-60motorsports]

Yeah I agree. I would choose the stock plastic pin over the metal ones if I were doing this again.

Why not go with the SS pin? Noisy? Cost? I have an SS pin for my clutch job in the future but was thinking of getting the plastic one since I’m SMG as well.

[Gt4]

Why not go with the SS pin? Noisy? Cost? I have an SS pin for my clutch job in the future but was thinking of getting the plastic one since I’m SMG as well.

I have the SS pin on one of my M3 and I regret, it’s noisy. I will eventually drop tranny again to put OEM plastic back.

[0-60motorsports]

I have the SS pin on one of my M3 and I regret, it's noisy. I will eventually drop tranny again to put OEM plastic back.

Ah ok thanks for the feedback. Did you lube it when installing it? I'll have a plastic one in the basket for the next order of parts

[Gt4]

Ah ok thanks for the feedback. Did you lube it when installing it? I'll have a plastic one in the basket for the next order of parts

To give you an idea, if I want to get rid of the rattling noise it makes, I need to put a litttle bit of pressure on the clutch pedal… so annoying on a car with stock muffler. So even a bit of lube haven’t changed anything. And when replacing the pivot pin, make sure to measure depth precisely otherwise you will bust the clutch slave… ask me how I know…


Also regarding the TOB, I think I prefer the one that comes with the LuK clutch kit. The TOB is pressed by the clutch fork and doesn’t get in contact straight as pressure is apply by clutch slave. Contact point of clutch fork is more with an angle. Pretty sure the LUK TOB apply load more evenly on the pressure plate during all of the slave travel.

[0-60motorsports]

To give you an idea, if I want to get rid of the rattling noise it makes, I need to put a litttle bit of pressure on the clutch pedal… so annoying on a car with stock muffler. So even a bit of lube haven't changed anything. And when replacing the pivot pin, make sure to measure depth precisely otherwise you will bust the clutch slave… ask me how I know…


Also regarding the TOB, I think I prefer the one that comes with the LuK clutch kit. The TOB is pressed by the clutch fork and doesn't get in contact straight as pressure is apply by clutch slave. Contact point of clutch fork is more with an angle. Pretty sure the LUK TOB apply load more evenly on the pressure plate during all of the slave travel.

Yup sounds good, thanks. I'll get the plastic pin.

[PSUEng]

Great thread, thank you to all for the knowledge sharing. So, for a vehicle with exhaust and tune (my car), on the street, is the SACHS "Performance" kit 21212282667 recommended or, something else? I'mis finding the 667 part number kit show up various places, at vastly different prices and I'm not sure what "Performance" denotes compared to "stock" equivalent.

[sapote]

I have the SS pin on one of my M3 and I regret, it’s noisy. I will eventually drop tranny again to put OEM plastic back.

It's also less friction between the plastic pin and the fork, so less wear on the fork pivot dimple.

[0-60motorsports]

Are y'all changing 21511223302 Clutch Release fork lever with every clutch change? My Car has close to 55k miles and i want to do the clutch refresh one of these days. Car is SMG so i have tracked and done launches on this clutch and i feel it sliping sometimes in between shifts.

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=21_0093

[Obioban]

Are y'all changing 21511223302 Clutch Release fork lever with every clutch change? My Car has close to 55k miles and i want to do the clutch refresh one of these days. Car is SMG so i have tracked and done launches on this clutch and i feel it sliping sometimes in between shifts.

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=21_0093

At 55k, I'd reuse the fork.

[GolanM3]

I have the SS pin on one of my M3 and I regret, it’s noisy. I will eventually drop tranny again to put OEM plastic back.

I'm about to replace mine with SS, although the plastic one does look fine, but I wonder how is it noisier if there is a fork clip that keep together so it doesn't rattle?
Also, do you have the stock flywheel? otherwise the lightweight flywheel makes a lot more noise than this pin.

https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/21517570284.htm?pn=21-51-7-570-284-M9&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAy9msBhD0ARIsANbk0A_ZhhghvKPbj6SLqmrcW6X_1qYYlqk-Px9q2H2rUsXdkebj4WDlxK8aAtviEALw_wcB

[bigjae46]

I'd just stick with the plastic pin and replace. The throw-out bearing will disintegrate first.

[sapote]

I'm about to replace mine with SS, although the plastic one does look fine, but I wonder how is it noisier if there is a fork clip that keep together so it doesn't rattle?

Maybe the clip is not strong enough to hold the fork to the pin tight on the road. It main function is to avoid the fork end fell off the pin, but not hold it tight enough.

[bimmerfan08]

Hi, everyone. I'm getting ready to drop my transmission to replace the clutch and associated parts. While I have everything apart, I want to refresh as many wearable parts as possible. The car is currently sitting at 175K miles.

Questions (thank you in advance):

1. Are the quantities of parts I've compiled correct?
2. Are the brand of parts I've compiled of good quality?
3. What parts are missing from my list that I should consider adding?
4. What bushings should be upgraded from stock rubber?
5. Does the clutch line need to be replaced? If so, OE or aftermarket?
6. What special tools are needed for the job that should be considered for procurement?
7. Should the detent pins and other accessible transmission components be replaced? Reference the 1st post of this thread.

This is the parts list I've compiled so far:

Part	Part Number	Brand	Quantity	Each Cost	Total Cost	Vendor	Note
Crank Seal Cover Gasket	11141432240	Elring	1	$4.29	$4.29	Link
Rear Main Seal	11141706785	Corteco	1	$20.31	$20.31	Link
Clutch Kit	21212282667	LUK	1	$254.99	$254.99	Link
Flywheel	21212229900	LUK	1	$318.79	$318.79	Link
Flywheel Bolts	11222243051	OE	8	$3.62	$28.96	Link
Pressure Plate Bolts	7119906045	Genuine BMW	6	$1.69	$10.14	Link
Pilot Bearing	11211720310	Genuine BMW	1	$19.69	$19.69	Link
Throwout Bearing	-	LUK	1	$0.00	$0.00	-	Included in clutch kit
Clutch Pivot Fork	21511223302	Genuine BMW	1	$33.87	$33.87	Link	Steel
Clutch Pivot Fork Pin	21511223328	Genuine BMW	1	$9.19	$9.19	Link	Plastic
Master Cylinder	21526773670	FTE	1	$68.05	$68.05	Link
Slave Cylinder	21526785966	FTE	1	$61.78	$61.78	Link
Guide Sleeve	23117512866	Getrag	1	$63.99	$63.99	Link
Transmission Input Shaft Seal	23121228493	Corteco	1	$19.19	$19.19	Link
Transmission Output Shaft Seal	23121222769	Corteco	1	$10.59	$10.59	Link
Center Support Bearing	26121225071	SKF	1	$18.39	$18.39	Link
Transmission Mounts	22322282340	Rogue Engineering	1	$64.00	$64.00	Link
Selector Rod Joint	25117503525	Rogue Engineering	1	$69.00	$69.00	Link
Transmission Shift Shaft Seal	23127501582	Getrag	1	$17.69	$17.69	Link
Transmission Shift Bushing	25111222015	Uro Parts	1	$14.39	$14.39	Link
Transmission Shift Lever Carrier Bushing	25117507695	Uro Parts	2	$4.79	$9.58	Link	Consider upgraded material
Shifter Bearing Cup	25111220600	Rein	1	$5.69	$5.69	Link
Shift Lever Carrier Bolt	25117529079	Genuine BMW	1	$5.99	$5.99	Link
Shift Rod Circlip	25117571899	Genuine BMW	2	$1.39	$2.78	Link
Transmission Fluid	83220309031	MTF-LT-2	2	$45.09	$90.18	Link
Clutch Fluid	Castrol SRF	DOT 4 brake fluid	1	$69.29	$69.29	Link
Driveshaft Centering Sleeve	26117526611	Genuine BMW	1	$8.29	$8.29	Link
Flex Disc	26112226527	Febi	1	$97.33	$97.33	Link
Flex Disc Bolts	26117635643	Genuine BMW	6	$4.91	$29.46	Link
Flex Disc Nuts	26127536563	Genuine BMW	6	$2.09	$12.54	Link
Exhaust Gasket	11627830668	HJS	2	$8.79	$17.58	Link	OE comparable
Exhaust Nut	11621744323	Genuine BMW	6	$3.59	$21.54	Link