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    #31
    Weighed the roof 3 times with just the roof and got anywhere from 21.8 to 22.8 lbs. Doing the "weigh yourself only then hold the roof and weigh yourself + roof" method, it was 22.5 lbs. So call it about 6 different times weighing it, the roof alone without the roof bow is 22.5 lbs.

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    Build thread: Topaz Blue to Shark Blue

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      #32
      Wow, that's surprising. Thought it would weigh less. Karb says their roof is 3.3 kg (7.3 lbs), so 15 lbs less just from swapping out the roof panel, not to mention all the other stuff.
      2002 Topasblau M3 - Coupe - 6MT - Karbonius CSL Airbox - MSS54HP Conversion - Kassel MAP - SSV1 - HJS - PCS Tune - Beisan - MK60 Swap - ZCP Rack - Nogaros - AutoSolutions - 996 Brembos - Slon - CMP - VinceBar - Koni - Eibach - BlueBus - Journal

      2012 Alpinweiss 128i - Coupe - 6AT - Slicktop - Manual Seats - Daily - Journal

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        #33
        Originally posted by heinzboehmer View Post
        Wow, that's surprising. Thought it would weigh less. Karb says their roof is 3.3 kg (7.3 lbs), so 15 lbs less just from swapping out the roof panel, not to mention all the other stuff.
        Yep. So that's why I was thinking it's closer to Lang's estimate.

        With the Slon carbon roof bow, gains are even more.

        I have a bunch of parts I took off the car that aren't going back on. I'll x-ref the list you have above, weigh them (in particular if they are missing from your list) and report back.
        Build thread: Topaz Blue to Shark Blue

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          #34
          Originally posted by Casa de Mesa View Post

          Yep. So that's why I was thinking it's closer to Lang's estimate.

          With the Slon carbon roof bow, gains are even more.

          I have a bunch of parts I took off the car that aren't going back on. I'll x-ref the list you have above, weigh them (in particular if they are missing from your list) and report back.
          Awesome. I actually have a Slon roof bow just sitting around waiting for the eventually carbon roof install. I can weigh it and report back.

          Anyone have an OEM one to weigh it? RealOEM says 1.243 kg (2.74 lbs), but I don't really trust it for weights. Although I can't imagine it will be much heavier than that.
          2002 Topasblau M3 - Coupe - 6MT - Karbonius CSL Airbox - MSS54HP Conversion - Kassel MAP - SSV1 - HJS - PCS Tune - Beisan - MK60 Swap - ZCP Rack - Nogaros - AutoSolutions - 996 Brembos - Slon - CMP - VinceBar - Koni - Eibach - BlueBus - Journal

          2012 Alpinweiss 128i - Coupe - 6AT - Slicktop - Manual Seats - Daily - Journal

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            #35
            Originally posted by heinzboehmer View Post

            Awesome. I actually have a Slon roof bow just sitting around waiting for the eventually carbon roof install. I can weigh it and report back.

            Anyone have an OEM one to weigh it? RealOEM says 1.243 kg (2.74 lbs), but I don't really trust it for weights. Although I can't imagine it will be much heavier than that.
            That sounds like an overestimate, if anything— stock one is pretty freaking light.

            2005 IR/IR M3 Coupe
            2012 LMB/Black 128i
            2008 Black/Black M5 Sedan

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              #36
              Slon one weighed 443g (0.977 lbs).

              Originally posted by Obioban View Post
              That sounds like an overestimate, if anything— stock now is pretty freaking light.
              Yeah, I would think the stock one is pretty light too. Considering selling the Slon one because I'm not sure 2 lbs is worth the extra money. Think I'd probably need to see someone weigh the stock one before making a decision.
              2002 Topasblau M3 - Coupe - 6MT - Karbonius CSL Airbox - MSS54HP Conversion - Kassel MAP - SSV1 - HJS - PCS Tune - Beisan - MK60 Swap - ZCP Rack - Nogaros - AutoSolutions - 996 Brembos - Slon - CMP - VinceBar - Koni - Eibach - BlueBus - Journal

              2012 Alpinweiss 128i - Coupe - 6AT - Slicktop - Manual Seats - Daily - Journal

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                #37
                Originally posted by Obioban View Post

                That sounds like an overestimate, if anything— stock now is pretty freaking light.
                Originally posted by heinzboehmer View Post
                Slon one weighed 443g (0.977 lbs).



                Yeah, I would think the stock one is pretty light too. Considering selling the Slon one because I'm not sure 2 lbs is worth the extra money. Think I'd probably need to see someone weigh the stock one before making a decision.
                When I was going back and forth with Slon on PM asking him lots of questions about their roof, the weaves available, etc., here is what he said about hew weight difference of their carbon roof bow:


                "...if I'm correct 1.7kg on steel vs 450g on carbon fiber."


                So if that figure is accurate (which, it looks like his quote on their own part is slightly more than what actual turned out to be) and for all the Imperialists out there, 3.74 pounds vs. 0.99 pounds. Or, a 2.75 lbs weight reduction.

                I have not weighed the steel part (never bought it) but could see it weighing that much. Most of the weight in the roof panel I measured above is from the additional stamped steel bracing on the underside, rather than from the actual roof skin that is welded to that bracing. That said, would love it if someone who had the BMW roof bow not-yet-installed could confirm.

                Regardless, IMHO, worth it! You already have the part, I see no downsides here.

                Build thread: Topaz Blue to Shark Blue

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Casa de Mesa View Post
                  Regardless, IMHO, worth it! You already have the part, I see no downsides here.
                  That is true. Well fortunately I have some time to decide. Still need to do the MK60 swap before even planning the roof.
                  2002 Topasblau M3 - Coupe - 6MT - Karbonius CSL Airbox - MSS54HP Conversion - Kassel MAP - SSV1 - HJS - PCS Tune - Beisan - MK60 Swap - ZCP Rack - Nogaros - AutoSolutions - 996 Brembos - Slon - CMP - VinceBar - Koni - Eibach - BlueBus - Journal

                  2012 Alpinweiss 128i - Coupe - 6AT - Slicktop - Manual Seats - Daily - Journal

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                    #39
                    Some various shock weights...obviously not an exact science here.

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                    I should also grab some spring weights while I have them all.


                    Although this info is out there, I also weighed my bare, primered genuine CSL bootlid which came out to right about 25lbs
                    Last edited by bavarian3; 08-21-2024, 11:39 PM.

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                      #40
                      ​Ok, I weighed the springs also:


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                      Nice to see a big decrease in weight in the rear, although there's also an adjuster added. I suppose I shall weigh that as well and edit this post.

                      The front weight is significant though. Will need to change that.



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                        #41
                        Ashtray Rear: 220 grams
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                        Cupholders: 172 grams
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                        Coin holder: 129 grams (minus 8 grams for the NZ$1 coin stuck in it) = 121 grams
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                        Leather handbrake boot: 88 grams
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                        Bluetooth Antenna + bracket: 79 grams
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                        Console Upper: 180 grams
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                        Arm Rest: 1737 grams
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                        2005 ///M3 SMG Coupe Silbergrau Metallic/CSL bucket seats
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                          #42
                          Anyone ever weigh tires? I was curious as to manufacturer specs and their accuracy. I just bought continental ecs 02 and grabbed some weights before mounting.



                          Front manufacturer specs:

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                          and the actual weight...25.3lb

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                          and the actual weight... 26.2lbs

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by bavarian3 View Post
                            Anyone ever weigh tires? I was curious as to manufacturer specs and their accuracy. I just bought continental ecs 02 and grabbed some weights before mounting.
                            One burnout and it should lose that gram, easy.

                            Continental has 24.2 F and 24.5 R. Manufacturing process isn't perfect, so some minor variation in tire weight is probably expected. Something similar being discussed about bicycle tires - https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/...ight-deviation

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Slideways View Post

                              One burnout and it should lose that gram, easy.

                              Continental has 24.2 F and 24.5 R. Manufacturing process isn't perfect, so some minor variation in tire weight is probably expected. Something similar being discussed about bicycle tires - https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/...ight-deviation
                              interesting insight and good point ! I should have weighed all 4. I'll have to weigh the whole wheel & tires to see the differences.

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