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    Originally posted by heinzboehmer View Post

    Bryson sent me this: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYAGESosIlI/

    Looks like their strategy is similar?
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      Originally posted by bigjae46 View Post

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      Oh hmm, looks like they deleted the post?

      Link still works on my phone, so maybe the app has it cached?

      Whatever, here's a few screenshots:

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        So the cars I've pulled these from are junkyard e46 non-m with shit all over the place. I think without a seat and door would help free up space, but I'm going to tinker around with the loose headliner I have and see because now I'm curious.

        Other areas I would think about (not necessarily an issue) is how it conforms along the ceiling and slides under the window moldings, and the panel in the back where the headliner curls over. As long as the fit is good i'm sure it's not a huge deal but these are areas I recall some flex aiding.

        I'm guessing these reasons why a certain shop took 3 years to develop this, and unless they purchased up all the limited(and now not really available I have a backorder in) BM134 this would be a non-oe fabric.
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          Originally posted by bavarian3 View Post
          So the cars I've pulled these from are junkyard e46 non-m with shit all over the place. I think without a seat and door would help free up space, but I'm going to tinker around with the loose headliner I have and see because now I'm curious.

          Other areas I would think about (not necessarily an issue) is how it conforms along the ceiling and slides under the window moldings, and the panel in the back where the headliner curls over. As long as the fit is good i'm sure it's not a huge deal but these are areas I recall some flex aiding.

          I'm guessing these reasons why a certain shop took 3 years to develop this, and unless they purchased up all the limited(and now not really available I have a backorder in) BM134 this would be a non-oe fabric.
          Yep! The more I stare at this, the more it becomes obvious that there's no way a replica is gonna be better in any way than the BMW part. Weight, NVH, ease of install, etc.

          BUT, being able to buy something beats not being to buy anything, so still seems like a worthy endeavor.

          I can see how replicating these the traditional way (i.e. trashing a part(s) to pull a mold) drives development costs way up and makes the retail part end up priced like they've priced it. However, I think approaching it from the digital world would lower those costs significantly. Development cost basically becomes materials for the mold and a couple prototypes, then it's just a matter of cranking out parts.
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            Originally posted by George Hill View Post
            I think it'll go in even being completely rigid, I don't recall ever having to bend a coupe. The door frame is larger on a coupe than a sedan and they come out a sedan without bending as well. Worst case you take the door off, 3 bolts and a wiring connector, bingo bango.
            I will admit, I did not think of taking off the door.

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              Originally posted by heinzboehmer View Post

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              Lol I guess I don't need to like this post since I like the IG post haha


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              Originally posted by bavarian3 View Post
              ...and the panel in the back where the headliner curls over.
              I forgot about this aspect, I wonder how they are dealing with it? With a rigid panel I don't know if it structurally needs it and being in the back window its likely not seen but this is definitely the item that now sticks out to me.
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                Personally I’d trust a mold from an actual part over a scan and re-CAD first attempt. Glad they’re doing it, even if it doesn’t help my wagon situation. I’m still looking for a slicktop touring headliner :/
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                  Originally posted by George Hill View Post
                  I forgot about this aspect, I wonder how they are dealing with it? With a rigid panel I don't know if it structurally needs it and being in the back window its likely not seen but this is definitely the item that now sticks out to me.
                  It doesn't curl up past 180 deg, so I think you would be able to wrap the carbon around the lip and just manage to demold the part. Tricky bit for sure though.

                  Originally posted by Bry5on View Post
                  Personally I’d trust a mold from an actual part over a scan and re-CAD first attempt. Glad they’re doing it, even if it doesn’t help my wagon situation. I’m still looking for a slicktop touring headliner :/
                  Oh 100%, I do too. But I do think that having the model will make prototyping go much faster, since you don't have to track down another impossible to find part and take another mold.

                  I spent some time thinking about how to validate the model efficiently yesterday and I think that using SW to flatten the surface and then printing it out on one of those big paper plotters could work. Then offer up to the real part and see if there are any inconsistencies.

                  The surface flattening algorithm and assembly do introduce extra variables, but sounds better (and much faster) than trying to print/CNC a few full scale prototypes. Would still for sure need at least one full scale pink insulation CNC part to test fitment before trying to pull a mold though.
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                    Heeell yeah. These came out incredible:

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                    The cerakote is practically a perfect match to the OE finish on the E86 braces. The stock E46 strut bar and brackets are slightly more glossy, but I opted to have them finished in the same color, just for consistency. Really happy with how they look.

                    You can see I also had my Karbonius snorkel refinished. I had no idea you could cerakote CF, but it came out great. Hard to tell in the pic, but the finish on that part is more matte than the braces, in an effort to make it look as close to the ABS plastic of the OE flap as possible.

                    I'll get these things on the car soon. Weather has been nice, so maybe I'll grab the camera and get some engine bay beauty shots as well.
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                    2012 Alpinweiss 128i - Coupe - 6AT - Slicktop - Manual Seats - Daily - Journal

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                      Looks awesome - especially the snorkel that's really, really nice!!
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                        Originally posted by karter16 View Post
                        Looks awesome - especially the snorkel that's really, really nice!!
                        Yeah, that one came out cooler than I expected!

                        I like that the texture of the carbon peeks out through the cerakote. Very subtle.
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                          Didn't have a ton of time today, but installed the parts and took some rushed engine bay pics. They're kinda all blown out, but salvaged what I could in SW:

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                          Took some closeups of the snorkel as well. Very happy with how that part looks now:

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                          (next time I'll wipe the engine bay down before pulling out the camera )
                          2002 Topasblau M3 - Coupe - 6MT - Karbonius CSL Airbox - SSV1 - HJS - Mullet Tune - MK60 Swap - E86 Front Triangulation - ZCP Rack - Nogaros - AutoSolutions - 996 Brembos - Slon - CMP - VinceBar - Koni - Eibach - BlueBus - Journal

                          2012 Alpinweiss 128i - Coupe - 6AT - Slicktop - Manual Seats - Daily - Journal

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                            Looks outstanding!!!

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                              So very nicely stock looking. Love it.

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                                Looks amazing.
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