Dumb Question Thread - No Flaming Allowed

[L0okitzRaj]

Not sure if this qualifies for Dumb Q thread, but I'm negotiating a deal on a 2026 X5 xDrive40i, build to order. If anyone can provide insight into what a "good deal" is, I'm open to it. No trade, Performance Center delivery; should be an easy transaction but some of these dealers just insist on the add-ons, and just really seem to hold on to every penny. I know people have to eat and business is business, but this price discovery is painful.

I'm in the auto industry and work with a lot of dealerships (not on the sales side) however from what I've noticed and have spoken to people, dealerships aren't going to negotiate as much as they did before COVID. I would expect the cheapest you'll find is MSRP. If the dealer won't let you buy for that and wants to keep adding stuff on, I would just keep calling dealers and find one that will.

Because you're ordering the car, you have the benefit of choosing the dealership. Out of state/smaller dealerships will generally give you a better deal.

[PSUEng]

I'm in the auto industry and work with a lot of dealerships (not on the sales side) however from what I've noticed and have spoken to people, dealerships aren't going to negotiate as much as they did before COVID. I would expect the cheapest you'll find is MSRP. If the dealer won't let you buy for that and wants to keep adding stuff on, I would just keep calling dealers and find one that will.

Because you're ordering the car, you have the benefit of choosing the dealership. Out of state/smaller dealerships will generally give you a better deal.

I negotiated 3% off MSRP and no adds/fees beyond state legal max doc fees and will get an extra rebate from BMWCCA; pickup in SC at Performance Center. Man that was painful; haven't bought a car at a dealer in 10yrs. Oh, and I avoided the +$1300 MSRP increase for July production since this was a June allocation.

Sreten trashed this thing on his channel, but it's to be expected. It's going to be my wife's car and she really likes it and I like it too. If anyone wants a clean, low mileage 2016 GX 460 message me!

[bavarian3]

Does anyone know the size of CSL muffler tips? Are they different from US muffler tips?

[ATB88]

Is it still a bad idea to swap to a faster steering rack if you're on a MK20 DSC? I recall reading a few years ago that because MK20 can't be programmed to account for different steering ratios than the stock M3 rack, if you swap in a different rack you'll set off DSC constantly. Is this a solved problem or still the same now in 2025?

Related question: anyone here rack swap a MK20 car and not regret it?

[fattycharged]

Is it still a bad idea to swap to a faster steering rack if you're on a MK20 DSC? I recall reading a few years ago that because MK20 can't be programmed to account for different steering ratios than the stock M3 rack, if you swap in a different rack you'll set off DSC constantly. Is this a solved problem or still the same now in 2025?

Related question: anyone here rack swap a MK20 car and not regret it?

I always turn of DSC anyways, but curious if it still is an issue with it OFF as well


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[DJAM3]

I've had two different MK20 cars, both with yellow tag racks. DSC doesn't seem any different to me. I turn it off if I plan on pushing the car.